Will I Be Able To Fill My HoM From Scratch Before GW2? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Rumi The Poet · Oct 20, 2010, 03:06 AM // 03:06

sure just buy some guys account and youll have it tomorrow as long as hes 50/50 then change names and whatever else you like.

sadly titles can be bought

and no i never bought any of mine

sTo0z · Oct 20, 2010, 10:20 AM // 10:20

Holy crap? I really don't understand how all of you guys are saying 30 points is easy? How is it so easy?

I have like 9/50 right now and I've "gone through" the games, and 4 of my 9 are from the minis...

Getting elite armor seems like a ridiculously long and boring task. All those rare materials, how are you guys getting them all? They are so difficult to find, or so expensive to buy, so armor is out for "being easy".

All the titles are obnoxious, I can't even imagine exploring the entire map, that is like the most boring thing I can think of. Hard mode in EVERY zone? BLARG. Doing every campaign over again in Hard Mode? These are all terrible tasks and are NOT "easy".

Same as armor, the weapons, it CANNOT be "easy", let alone fun at all, to grind after any of that.

I don't mean to sound like a whiner or anything, but how can you guys say all of this stuff is "easy".

30/50 seems impossible from where I'm sitting.

aspi · Oct 20, 2010, 10:28 AM // 10:28

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Originally Posted by sTo0z

Holy crap? I really don't understand how all of you guys are saying 30 points is easy? How is it so easy?

I have like 9/50 right now and I've "gone through" the games, and 4 of my 9 are from the minis...

Getting elite armor seems like a ridiculously long and boring task. All those rare materials, how are you guys getting them all? They are so difficult to find, or so expensive to buy, so armor is out for "being easy".

All the titles are obnoxious, I can't even imagine exploring the entire map, that is like the most boring thing I can think of. Hard mode in EVERY zone? BLARG. Doing every campaign over again in Hard Mode? These are all terrible tasks and are NOT "easy".

Same as armor, the weapons, it CANNOT be "easy", let alone fun at all, to grind after any of that.

I don't mean to sound like a whiner or anything, but how can you guys say all of this stuff is "easy".

30/50 seems impossible from where I'm sitting.

Not impossible but you just dont feel like doing the things needed for the max titles. No problem you don't have to do any of it.
But really getting to 30 is not that hard, just like Vanquish every area is not that hard with maybe an exception for certain annoying areas.
If you dont like doing all of those things it will not get you to your 30/50.
Maybe a stupid thing to ask, but what do you like to do in the game?

sTo0z · Oct 20, 2010, 10:32 AM // 10:32

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Originally Posted by aspi

Not impossible but you just dont feel like doing the things needed for the max titles. No problem you don't have to do any of it.
But really getting to 30 is not that hard, just like Vanquish every area is not that hard with maybe an exception for certain annoying areas.
If you dont like doing all of those things it will not get you to your 30/50.
Maybe a stupid thing to ask, but what do you like to do in the game?

Like I said, I don't mean to complain, I think the whole idea is awesome and I agree they are REWARDS for epic deeds... I just think it's kind of strange you guys are saying they are EASY... That's all... I just don't see how they are easy, they seem hard!

Hah, I don't know, I enjoyed going through the stories and building up different characters...

I would put in the effort to go after some of these tasks, but I really haven't the faintest idea how to. I have no idea how all these people are building all this elite armor, seems like the most painstakingly long and boring ordeal... I guess it all boils down to gold, and I never have much of it, nor do I know how so many people are getting so much.

I guess the other hard part is, I don't know how to run all the crazy areas in the game, and I don't personally know anyone that plays, so I'm often stuck by myself with the bots.

Iuris · Oct 20, 2010, 11:04 AM // 11:04

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Holy crap? I really don't understand how all of you guys are saying 30 points is easy? How is it so easy?

It's not. People who say it is have been playing for thousands of hours, have accumulated MASSES of wealth, and mostly started out with quite a few titles already done.

To do it all from scratch... is going to take a looong time.

-you need to learn to play the game, which means getting all the heroes, all their skills (which means either unlocking them with faction or buying them, and just 3 unique builds will cost you 8x3x1000 gold for the skills alone. That's 24000 gold for a STARTING character - you don't do speed clears as a new character. The PvE skills will take an hour per, averaging out, and so on.

-you need to do all the missions. Assuming half an hour per mission (with many needing a whole hour to get the bonus, remember), you're looking a 50ish missions

-guardians, do it again - in HM. At least as much time, much more likely more.

-maxing out Lightbringer/Sunspear will probably have you doing the Salahja runs... for 500-1000 LBPP per run. And 15 mins per run.

-maxing out the EotN titles is "fast". A full NM mission book will yield 20k faction - and take 4 hours to fill out. And after 4 you'll need to go Hard mode. And 160000 is the max for the title. That's 4 NM + 3 full HM books. For ONE title. You can speed it up by grinding just three shortest missions, earning say 3k per half hour.

-elite skill hunting will mean 294 skills to cap. Say you only need half an hour to get to the boss... and say you earn as much from drops as you waste on signets of capture... and you get a lot of time spent. Remember - you can only cap skills of your own professions, and bosses are quite nicely spaced over so you rarely cap two per session. Oh, and you'll HATE tyrian random spawning bosses. Especially the 6 that only spawn in Mineral springs, where you need to cross two maps to even reach them...

And everything more takes even longer. For example, I have 10 caharacters, all of them triple protectors... and I don't think I got past 2000 opened chests and gold items identified. I've got 42 points so far.

Soon, someone will point out the wonders of titles that you can buy... except you A) need to earn the money to buy sweets/party items/booze B) need to find sellers that don't gouge the prices c) need to actually use them, which will be a problem with tonics and booze. Oh, and a million gold per title... it's NOT earned quite as fast as some think. Especially for people who play, say, 2h per day.

No, it's not fast, and it's not easy. It is in RETROSPECT - you forget how much you cursed the last boss you had to find in mineral springs on your 4th trip there. You forget how long it took you to earn all that money you spent on the armors. And so on and on.

Roen · Oct 20, 2010, 01:35 PM // 13:35

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Originally Posted by sTo0z

I have like 9/50 right now and I've "gone through" the games, and 4 of my 9 are from the minis...

I don't think 50/50 is easy. 30/50 is totally doable but I don't know that I'd call it easy. Depends on how much you like just running around playing through areas. I am sitting at 9/50 also. I've only completed Prophecies NM. I'm playing through Factions now, then Nightfall. Then I'll finish EotN. Then I'll replay each of the campaigns in HM because it's fun to me. By the time I'm done with all that, I should be easy over 15/30. I just charmed a black moa (dead easy) for a rare pet trophy and have a Mad King Thorn I may sell or dedicate, haven't decided yet. Still, I expect to hit 20/30 without anything that I consider grinding.

I've also never done ANY of the elite dungeons. So getting through UW, FoW, DoA, etc. will get me that many more trophies. I want to do them though, not for the HoM. Just because it's part of the game I'm interested in.

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Originally Posted by sTo0z

Getting elite armor seems like a ridiculously long and boring task. All those rare materials, how are you guys getting them all? They are so difficult to find, or so expensive to buy, so armor is out for "being easy".

I have to admit, this is one area where I have no desire to max the HoM. I've only ever wanted ONE type of elite armor, and I have it. Norn armor for my ranger. It's just for me personally the most absotastic armor in the game. It was easy to get. I played enough of EotN to get to Slayer of Wurms (5) so I could have it crafted. And I had over 100k available to spend on it. It's been my biggest purchase in game. I do not care about other armor and will not waste my time grinding just to get any of it. If that keeps me below 30/50 so be it.

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Originally Posted by sTo0z

All the titles are obnoxious, I can't even imagine exploring the entire map, that is like the most boring thing I can think of. Hard mode in EVERY zone? BLARG. Doing every campaign over again in Hard Mode? These are all terrible tasks and are NOT "easy".

Depends. I want to get cartographer of Tyria but I really don't want to have to go back over the entire continent to figure out what areas I've missed. I don't care about the others right now because I haven't spent the last few years playing those areas. Maybe by the time I'm through them I'll be interested. Vanquishing, while I don't imagine is too hard in general with the right team, I'm just not interested.

But redoing all the missions in HM for Guardian title? Yeah, I'll admit, I like that idea. So it's not grinding to me. It's fun. Which makes it seem easier.

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Originally Posted by sTo0z

Same as armor, the weapons, it CANNOT be "easy", let alone fun at all, to grind after any of that.

I don't care about the weapons either. But I figure, I'll have plenty of money when I'm done with all the stuff I really want to do in game just for fun, that I'll have plenty cash to buy a weapon or two if I want the HoM rewards.

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Originally Posted by sTo0z

I don't mean to sound like a whiner or anything, but how can you guys say all of this stuff is "easy".

30/50 seems impossible from where I'm sitting.

You're not whining. I think people who play a whole lot, some of the more hard core players, understate the challenge. I wouldn't say easy. But I would say not hard. And fun. So what the hey! Just play and have fun. If you make it to 30/50 or even 50/50, good for you! If not, did you still have fun? If so, mission accomplished.

DeanBB · Oct 20, 2010, 02:29 PM // 14:29

"Easy" is a relative term. My goal is 30 and I'm at 23 right now. I'm getting my fifth year minis, so that tells you how long I've been playing with only brief breaks to play other games.

I'm at 31 minis without buying any and giving many away to guildies. 6 points, no effort.

Just playing through the game you accumulate pets and heroes. Before the HoM calculator came along I was just giving my heroes the armor upgrades as desired, so have duplicates. I recently charmed the Phoenix then leveled it up with farmed balthazar faction. I'm at 6 points, no real effort.

I'm neither a grinder nor a farmer. I have the titles that I've acquired just from playing the games: no vanquishing, no cartographer, etc. 10 statues, 9 points, just playing the game. I have completed places like FoW and UW with the guild.

For armor, I'm at 2/8, just because I liked some of the elite armor and bought it. Right now I am doing some grinding, earning Jade through L-faction to get an elite luxon armor for my monk. I could get elite kurzick armor right now, but don't like any of them. After that, I'll do quests for rubies and sapphires for elite vabbi armor for my dervish, again because I want that set of armor and it adds to my HoM. Add one "regular" elite armor and I will be at 7 points. This is some effort and takes time away from what I might be doing otherwise.

I have no weapons in my HoM and only just started doing the War in Kryta.

I am also farming the zaishen challenge for 2000 faction on multiple accounts. It'll take me about 2 months, at maybe 25 minutes per day (running it twice), but I'll have the 3 point PvP title without buying any keys. That plus the armor sets will put me over 30 points.

Most of my gold nowadays comes from farming in pre-sear for gifts, (plus the gifts collected in post) then moving the gifts to post, opening them and selling the party, sweet, and booze. I'll easily get 200k-300k a pop doing that.

Take a good look at the HoM calculator and set some realistic goals. Play through the entire game on one character. Do something to earn money just for lockpicks, then open every chest for a chance at something useful and lucky/unlucky points. 30/50 really isn't too hard and doesn't require endless grind, just some time and focus.

**cosyfiep** · Oct 20, 2010, 02:44 PM // 14:44

its not easy and not going to be handed to you....having multiple characters does help so that you are doing things with different ones (also helps on getting armor...if you have say 6 characters and get one set of elite--you have that monument filled....and if one was kurzick and one was vabbian...you have 2 more points, etc).... I had to work to save up for my armors, I made sure to pick up all drops and not to spend --used the kourman coins, luxon totems etc for id kits/salvage kits ....

some of the things are just playing the game and making sure you finish things--like getting masters/bonus on missions....while you play cap skills of your professions ....

getting hero armor: do the challenge missions (dajkat and the remains are pretty easy to get a few pieces and taking the right heroes with you will get you the nexus)....you dont have to get all of them!

minis....most of us have had our accounts for sometime, thus accumulating yearly birthday minis, yes some are duplicates, but outside of the sty of wallows I have gotten a fair amount of the others as well.....

for the titles--not all of them require max level and some are quite buyable (or if you do nic gifts you can trade the alcohol for the party points and sweets, clicking a whole lot of times is easier than 6 days of 'drinking')....or play when special items drop--we have 2 major ones coming up--halloween and wintersday.

remember you dont have to get 50/50 to enjoy most of the 'reward' since only title exist after 30---so make a list of which things you think you can accomplish (and give you points for doing them)...and you will see that you are quite far along if you just stick to that.

tormtk · Oct 20, 2010, 03:44 PM // 15:44

@OP HoM is not that bad. It depends on your skill level in the game, amount of time you can play, and when GW2 actually releases. I say you have a good 6-8 months. If you can devote a couple hours a day for that period and have descent skills in the game you should be fine. To get a full 50 in that time, you better have more time and good money making skills.

@stooz getting 30/50 is easy there is nothing hard about it. However easy is a relative term. You have to remember this game has been out for a while. Even those like myself that quite for a few years, that are now back, played for some time before leaving. If you just play the game missions, HM etc you can get pretty close to 30 w/o even trying. It does take time. IF you are working towards 50/50 it takes alot more time. Hard never really factors in unless you are short of time. The less time you have the harder you have to work to be efficent, and make money to buy things to help you make your goal. To me your problem seems to be not having a good guild. If you are playing with bots all the time have little xp in HM, and have not done elite areas go join a guild and you will have fun learning so much more the game has to offer not to mention get to 30/50 pretty quick.

JONO51 · Oct 20, 2010, 05:12 PM // 17:12

The tasks themselves to get 30 are easy, but it isnt an overnight thing. It'll take probably 3-6 months. Could be less, but for most I'd say this is correct. Theres plenty of things everyone can get easily. Only if you want a full 50 does it become grindy, e.g. 40 titles, obsidian, 50 minis.

The way I'd do it is - one of the lux/kurz. Only need to earn 200k, which is 400k on your title. Plenty of double weekends too. You could also use this as a chance to get some jade or amber for your faction armor, although it will slow the title a little. In addition, if you do cantha hm (noted just below), its a 120k rep book.

All 3 campaigns, + leg guardian. 10 "titles". The HM stuff can be done via zquest pugs, and is a nice source of cash as its 1k or so per quest, + mission reward and you can trade your zcoins for things like bags which sell for a nice amount.

Sorrows furnace, FoW, urgoz and the deep. The latter two are zquests. Fow can be done rather easily 2man with 6heroes. Sorrows is very easy with henchman, although the last quest is annoying. The coming full hero party update will make these more accessible too. This will also mean 15 titles on your honor statue and 10 points of your thirty.

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Get all 30 hero armors/pets. These can all be played to. If you really dont want to, you can skip, buy a few, though I'd save your cash for armors. Another 8 points, bringing us to 18.

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Play EotN a bit, try and get r5 in two of the titles. A story book will secure you one of these. This allows you to get the two of the cheapest elite sets, and it makes you play some of the pretty nice dungeons (save your diamonds and onyx!). Do these via zquests if they prove too challenging. Then use the cash from leg guardian to get 2 sets (80k+mats), and get a factions set (60k+mats). Probably around 170k inc mats, which should be largely funded by leg guardian and playing the game over the past months/years, provided you have wasted money on pointless things. This gives an extra 4 points. 22 in total.

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Weapons. Play WiK for an oppressor weapon. Then, using those onyx and diamonds that the dunegons (cruelly?) rewarded you, craft a destroyer weapon. Another 3 points, taking us to 25.

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Minis. I'd wait for these to drop in price more before considering buying any. First, do the mini moa quest for a greenie, buy/get lucky and recieve a gold pet. That takes us to 28. For the final two points - wait it out/ get some cheap white minis to make 20 and take us to 30 points. Prices will fall in a month or so, and there'll be thousands of wallows, whiptails et al.

Mordakai · Oct 20, 2010, 06:34 PM // 18:34

First off, it's hard to get the Destroyer weapons and Vabbian armor right now because of material prices. But those should stabalize before release...

If I were just starting off, I would work on the easy things first:

Just completing a campaign (not even the bonus!) gives you a state: Hero of ____.

So, that's 3 statues.

Then, completing the Bonus on each mission will get you another statue. Doing it in hard mode (not that hard with heroes or if you group with people during Zaishen Bounties... that's how I finished hard mode) will net you 4 more statues. (+1 for Guardian Title)

Vanquishing is not what I would call "easy": it's time consuming, it can be frustrating to find every mob, some areas are super tough. The advantage of Vanquishing is it gives you gold AND Faction/Sunspear/Lightbringer points in the appropriate area. I highly suggest downloading the Map Text Mod: http://www.mediafire.com/?k50zdqnehwn for easy Cartographer Title while Vanquishing.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guide...-game_graphics

(Here's a video explaining the very basics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94UKg...eature=related)

Very useful to download this BEFORE you start Vanquishing, as it's easy to clear areas when everything is dead... much harder to go do this later.

BUT, even though Vanquishing takes time, it is worth it, because you get Two things you need: GOLD and POINTS for Other Titles (except Tyria). (Not to mention the drops).

BTW, all this stuff is going to get a LOT easier, because we're gonna get 7 Heroes allowed in the near future...

Again: This stuff is totally optional. But if you want to play GW, and you want to get rewards for GW2, there is no reason not to start working on Titles. It may seem impossible when staring at a 3 pt Reward Calculator, but the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step... and as you start earning those points, it will get easier and easier.

Good luck and have fun!

sTo0z · Oct 21, 2010, 07:22 AM // 07:22

You guys are making me feel a lot better about all of this... I fully intend to give a lot of these goals a go.

Thanks for all encouragement and helpful tips, we'll see how I end up.

Yah, the guild thing is tough... Back in the day I started a guild with like 10 of my friends that played the game with me. Over time they all dropped out for various reasons, and even with all this excitement, they have no intention of coming back.

So I'm sitting in a guild by myself.

I try to be social in town but the chat is exploding with text that seems like it's coming from robots, people advertising guilds with terms I can't even imagine what they mean.

I'd better get in-game and get movin' on some of these goals.

Kojima · Apr 15, 2011, 06:36 PM // 18:36

sTo0z,

I have been playing GW only for about 1.3 years. So I do not have lots of minis or money on my account.

Here is what I did first:

Finished the three campaigns = 3 pts
Finished the three cartographer titles (texmods helped a lot) = 3 pts
Having 5 title = 1 pt
Having one mini cos of my 2nd char birthday (I deleted my first cos I didnt know) = 1 pt
Having a pet = 1 point
Having a phoenix = 1 pt
Having M.O.X = 1 pt

This gave me 11 points already.

I have 12 slots, 11 used. 10 running all over in all three campaigns. I would basically run them through till each get about 100plat and then go get the elite armor for that char (I would look at wikis before that for a long time to decide what I want to buy... cos I want my char to look good to me...It's a girl thing). 100plat because I am lazy plus busy. I buy the rare mats.

This gave me quite a few points on armors...

While doing the carto, I would try capping as many elites skills as I can. Might as well, right? And I have opened up all the secondaries. So I simply check what bosses are in the area and cap them according to the professions. - helps in getting the elite skills hunt.

The pacman solo mission thingy (Remains of Sahlahja) is the easiest for me to run and that gave me a few pieces to upgrade my heroes' armors.

This got me started on HOM.

Next came either vanquishing or finishing all the missions with bonuses. Text mod's helped a lot (In Game Mission Maps - IGMM.)

I did it the hard way too....

Wracks · Apr 15, 2011, 07:23 PM // 19:23

I can speak from my experience, I've set out to get atleast 30/50 for my HoM once the update came out(you get max item rewards). Before the HoM, I never played GW

It took me about 1 and a half month to get to to 30/50 while playing about 2-3 hrs per day and 4-5 hrs on weekend/fridays in which I dedicated mostly to trading

I had a smooth run since I got somewhat lucky while doing one of uw runs by getting mini dhuum in which I could relatively fund myself to getting 30/50 fast with minis/armor and crafting HoM weaps, but I am sure its possible by just dedicating a few hours to farm event drops

Oct 20, 2010, 02:44 PM // 14:44	#28
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	its not easy and not going to be handed to you....having multiple characters does help so that you are doing things with different ones (also helps on getting armor...if you have say 6 characters and get one set of elite--you have that monument filled....and if one was kurzick and one was vabbian...you have 2 more points, etc).... I had to work to save up for my armors, I made sure to pick up all drops and not to spend --used the kourman coins, luxon totems etc for id kits/salvage kits .... some of the things are just playing the game and making sure you finish things--like getting masters/bonus on missions....while you play cap skills of your professions .... getting hero armor: do the challenge missions (dajkat and the remains are pretty easy to get a few pieces and taking the right heroes with you will get you the nexus)....you dont have to get all of them! minis....most of us have had our accounts for sometime, thus accumulating yearly birthday minis, yes some are duplicates, but outside of the sty of wallows I have gotten a fair amount of the others as well..... for the titles--not all of them require max level and some are quite buyable (or if you do nic gifts you can trade the alcohol for the party points and sweets, clicking a whole lot of times is easier than 6 days of 'drinking')....or play when special items drop--we have 2 major ones coming up--halloween and wintersday. remember you dont have to get 50/50 to enjoy most of the 'reward' since only title exist after 30---so make a list of which things you think you can accomplish (and give you points for doing them)...and you will see that you are quite far along if you just stick to that. __________________ where is the 'all you can eat' cookie bar?

Oct 20, 2010, 06:34 PM // 18:34	#31
Mordakai Grotto Attendant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kyhlo Profession: W/	First off, it's hard to get the Destroyer weapons and Vabbian armor right now because of material prices. But those should stabalize before release... If I were just starting off, I would work on the easy things first: Just completing a campaign (not even the bonus!) gives you a state: Hero of ____. So, that's 3 statues. Then, completing the Bonus on each mission will get you another statue. Doing it in hard mode (not that hard with heroes or if you group with people during Zaishen Bounties... that's how I finished hard mode) will net you 4 more statues. (+1 for Guardian Title) Vanquishing is not what I would call "easy": it's time consuming, it can be frustrating to find every mob, some areas are super tough. The advantage of Vanquishing is it gives you gold AND Faction/Sunspear/Lightbringer points in the appropriate area. I highly suggest downloading the Map Text Mod: http://www.mediafire.com/?k50zdqnehwn for easy Cartographer Title while Vanquishing. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guide...-game_graphics (Here's a video explaining the very basics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94UKg...eature=related) Very useful to download this BEFORE you start Vanquishing, as it's easy to clear areas when everything is dead... much harder to go do this later. BUT, even though Vanquishing takes time, it is worth it, because you get Two things you need: GOLD and POINTS for Other Titles (except Tyria). (Not to mention the drops). BTW, all this stuff is going to get a LOT easier, because we're gonna get 7 Heroes allowed in the near future... Again: This stuff is totally optional. But if you want to play GW, and you want to get rewards for GW2, there is no reason not to start working on Titles. It may seem impossible when staring at a 3 pt Reward Calculator, but the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step... and as you start earning those points, it will get easier and easier. Good luck and have fun! Last edited by Mordakai; Oct 20, 2010 at 06:42 PM // 18:42..

Apr 15, 2011, 06:36 PM // 18:36	#33
Kojima Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Home Guild: En Caligne Veritas [DARK] Profession: R/Rt	sTo0z, I have been playing GW only for about 1.3 years. So I do not have lots of minis or money on my account. Here is what I did first: Finished the three campaigns = 3 pts Finished the three cartographer titles (texmods helped a lot) = 3 pts Having 5 title = 1 pt Having one mini cos of my 2nd char birthday (I deleted my first cos I didnt know) = 1 pt Having a pet = 1 point Having a phoenix = 1 pt Having M.O.X = 1 pt This gave me 11 points already. I have 12 slots, 11 used. 10 running all over in all three campaigns. I would basically run them through till each get about 100plat and then go get the elite armor for that char (I would look at wikis before that for a long time to decide what I want to buy... cos I want my char to look good to me...It's a girl thing). 100plat because I am lazy plus busy. I buy the rare mats. This gave me quite a few points on armors... While doing the carto, I would try capping as many elites skills as I can. Might as well, right? And I have opened up all the secondaries. So I simply check what bosses are in the area and cap them according to the professions. - helps in getting the elite skills hunt. The pacman solo mission thingy (Remains of Sahlahja) is the easiest for me to run and that gave me a few pieces to upgrade my heroes' armors. This got me started on HOM. Next came either vanquishing or finishing all the missions with bonuses. Text mod's helped a lot (In Game Mission Maps - IGMM.) I did it the hard way too.... Last edited by Kojima; Apr 15, 2011 at 06:41 PM // 18:41..

Oct 20, 2010, 03:06 AM // 03:06	#21
Rumi The Poet Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2010 Guild: This Game Is Old Profession: D/P	sure just buy some guys account and youll have it tomorrow as long as hes 50/50 then change names and whatever else you like. sadly titles can be bought and no i never bought any of mine

Oct 20, 2010, 10:20 AM // 10:20	#22
sTo0z Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	Holy crap? I really don't understand how all of you guys are saying 30 points is easy? How is it so easy? I have like 9/50 right now and I've "gone through" the games, and 4 of my 9 are from the minis... Getting elite armor seems like a ridiculously long and boring task. All those rare materials, how are you guys getting them all? They are so difficult to find, or so expensive to buy, so armor is out for "being easy". All the titles are obnoxious, I can't even imagine exploring the entire map, that is like the most boring thing I can think of. Hard mode in EVERY zone? BLARG. Doing every campaign over again in Hard Mode? These are all terrible tasks and are NOT "easy". Same as armor, the weapons, it CANNOT be "easy", let alone fun at all, to grind after any of that. I don't mean to sound like a whiner or anything, but how can you guys say all of this stuff is "easy". 30/50 seems impossible from where I'm sitting.

Oct 20, 2010, 02:29 PM // 14:29	#27
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	"Easy" is a relative term. My goal is 30 and I'm at 23 right now. I'm getting my fifth year minis, so that tells you how long I've been playing with only brief breaks to play other games. I'm at 31 minis without buying any and giving many away to guildies. 6 points, no effort. Just playing through the game you accumulate pets and heroes. Before the HoM calculator came along I was just giving my heroes the armor upgrades as desired, so have duplicates. I recently charmed the Phoenix then leveled it up with farmed balthazar faction. I'm at 6 points, no real effort. I'm neither a grinder nor a farmer. I have the titles that I've acquired just from playing the games: no vanquishing, no cartographer, etc. 10 statues, 9 points, just playing the game. I have completed places like FoW and UW with the guild. For armor, I'm at 2/8, just because I liked some of the elite armor and bought it. Right now I am doing some grinding, earning Jade through L-faction to get an elite luxon armor for my monk. I could get elite kurzick armor right now, but don't like any of them. After that, I'll do quests for rubies and sapphires for elite vabbi armor for my dervish, again because I want that set of armor and it adds to my HoM. Add one "regular" elite armor and I will be at 7 points. This is some effort and takes time away from what I might be doing otherwise. I have no weapons in my HoM and only just started doing the War in Kryta. I am also farming the zaishen challenge for 2000 faction on multiple accounts. It'll take me about 2 months, at maybe 25 minutes per day (running it twice), but I'll have the 3 point PvP title without buying any keys. That plus the armor sets will put me over 30 points. Most of my gold nowadays comes from farming in pre-sear for gifts, (plus the gifts collected in post) then moving the gifts to post, opening them and selling the party, sweet, and booze. I'll easily get 200k-300k a pop doing that. Take a good look at the HoM calculator and set some realistic goals. Play through the entire game on one character. Do something to earn money just for lockpicks, then open every chest for a chance at something useful and lucky/unlucky points. 30/50 really isn't too hard and doesn't require endless grind, just some time and focus.

Oct 20, 2010, 03:44 PM // 15:44	#29
tormtk Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: ocd Profession: W/	@OP HoM is not that bad. It depends on your skill level in the game, amount of time you can play, and when GW2 actually releases. I say you have a good 6-8 months. If you can devote a couple hours a day for that period and have descent skills in the game you should be fine. To get a full 50 in that time, you better have more time and good money making skills. @stooz getting 30/50 is easy there is nothing hard about it. However easy is a relative term. You have to remember this game has been out for a while. Even those like myself that quite for a few years, that are now back, played for some time before leaving. If you just play the game missions, HM etc you can get pretty close to 30 w/o even trying. It does take time. IF you are working towards 50/50 it takes alot more time. Hard never really factors in unless you are short of time. The less time you have the harder you have to work to be efficent, and make money to buy things to help you make your goal. To me your problem seems to be not having a good guild. If you are playing with bots all the time have little xp in HM, and have not done elite areas go join a guild and you will have fun learning so much more the game has to offer not to mention get to 30/50 pretty quick.

Oct 20, 2010, 05:12 PM // 17:12	#30
JONO51 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2006 Profession: P/	The tasks themselves to get 30 are easy, but it isnt an overnight thing. It'll take probably 3-6 months. Could be less, but for most I'd say this is correct. Theres plenty of things everyone can get easily. Only if you want a full 50 does it become grindy, e.g. 40 titles, obsidian, 50 minis. The way I'd do it is - one of the lux/kurz. Only need to earn 200k, which is 400k on your title. Plenty of double weekends too. You could also use this as a chance to get some jade or amber for your faction armor, although it will slow the title a little. In addition, if you do cantha hm (noted just below), its a 120k rep book. All 3 campaigns, + leg guardian. 10 "titles". The HM stuff can be done via zquest pugs, and is a nice source of cash as its 1k or so per quest, + mission reward and you can trade your zcoins for things like bags which sell for a nice amount. Sorrows furnace, FoW, urgoz and the deep. The latter two are zquests. Fow can be done rather easily 2man with 6heroes. Sorrows is very easy with henchman, although the last quest is annoying. The coming full hero party update will make these more accessible too. This will also mean 15 titles on your honor statue and 10 points of your thirty. --- Get all 30 hero armors/pets. These can all be played to. If you really dont want to, you can skip, buy a few, though I'd save your cash for armors. Another 8 points, bringing us to 18. --- Play EotN a bit, try and get r5 in two of the titles. A story book will secure you one of these. This allows you to get the two of the cheapest elite sets, and it makes you play some of the pretty nice dungeons (save your diamonds and onyx!). Do these via zquests if they prove too challenging. Then use the cash from leg guardian to get 2 sets (80k+mats), and get a factions set (60k+mats). Probably around 170k inc mats, which should be largely funded by leg guardian and playing the game over the past months/years, provided you have wasted money on pointless things. This gives an extra 4 points. 22 in total. --- Weapons. Play WiK for an oppressor weapon. Then, using those onyx and diamonds that the dunegons (cruelly?) rewarded you, craft a destroyer weapon. Another 3 points, taking us to 25. --- Minis. I'd wait for these to drop in price more before considering buying any. First, do the mini moa quest for a greenie, buy/get lucky and recieve a gold pet. That takes us to 28. For the final two points - wait it out/ get some cheap white minis to make 20 and take us to 30 points. Prices will fall in a month or so, and there'll be thousands of wallows, whiptails et al.

Oct 21, 2010, 07:22 AM // 07:22	#32
sTo0z Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	You guys are making me feel a lot better about all of this... I fully intend to give a lot of these goals a go. Thanks for all encouragement and helpful tips, we'll see how I end up. Yah, the guild thing is tough... Back in the day I started a guild with like 10 of my friends that played the game with me. Over time they all dropped out for various reasons, and even with all this excitement, they have no intention of coming back. So I'm sitting in a guild by myself. I try to be social in town but the chat is exploding with text that seems like it's coming from robots, people advertising guilds with terms I can't even imagine what they mean. I'd better get in-game and get movin' on some of these goals.

Apr 15, 2011, 07:23 PM // 19:23	#34
Wracks Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2009 Profession: A/	I can speak from my experience, I've set out to get atleast 30/50 for my HoM once the update came out(you get max item rewards). Before the HoM, I never played GW It took me about 1 and a half month to get to to 30/50 while playing about 2-3 hrs per day and 4-5 hrs on weekend/fridays in which I dedicated mostly to trading I had a smooth run since I got somewhat lucky while doing one of uw runs by getting mini dhuum in which I could relatively fund myself to getting 30/50 fast with minis/armor and crafting HoM weaps, but I am sure its possible by just dedicating a few hours to farm event drops